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glock7
04-14-2013, 2:10 PM
My lgs had some 800x (imr) on the shelves so I decided to pick some up. During my research I found that it works better with a heavier bullet. So that being said...I decided to try it with my 9mm loads. Following the cookbook, it said 4.5 to start but my research said start at 5.5. So to be safe I loaded at 4.9 (115gr) it shot but would not cycle, so I went back and loaded to 6.1 (Max was 6.5) and it shot like a champ. Then I loaded some 124gr at 6.1 (the same parameters as 115gr) and it too shot very well, with a little more felt recoil. I think I can bump them down a little say 5.7-5.9 and it should be ok. So again if you see it on the shelf, pick it up. It's a funny looking powder, looks like fish food. Hope this helps, enjoy!

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zeke
March 26, 2010, 03:00 AM
Used up seldom used powder in 9mm, including a can of 800x. Have gotten very good results using it, however like others indicated it was a pain. My RCBS powder measure sticks and cuts granules using it. As i recall "settled" the powder in the case, before seating the bullet.

Rem brass, Fed 100 primer, Win 115 fmjfb, 1.157 col, 6.6 grains 800x.
From Browning hp bout 1170 fps and very good accuracy.

800X should work just fine. Its a bit faster than AA5 and HS6, slower than Unique.

From the free (saved locally) IMR load pamphlet.



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gmd3006
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I think you've bracketed the powder burn rate - Titegroup is too fast, and 800X is too slow in my experience with 9mm. I agree with Oberndorf: Alliant Unique or Hodgdon Universal Clays are in the middle of the range you bracketed, and work best in my 9s.
I think the trick is to match the burn speed to the operating speed of your slide. Unique/Universal do that for me.
With Titegroup, there's a hair's difference between the min load to operate the slide, and an overload.
With Unique or Universal, there's a fair gap between min load to cycle and an overload.
With 800x, the rate may be too slow to operate your slide. I don't know - never tried such a slow powder. It's way down at #52 on this rate chart http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html
This will vary with the particular pistol in question. I'm 100% sure some guns out there will cycle fine with Titegroup or 800x. Mine won't cycle with Hodgdon Titegroup, Clays, or Alliant Bullseye.


MR 8x57js
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Titegroup is a good powder for the 9MM it does have a fast burn rate faster then W231` so i would use Titegroup with 90 or 95 grain Bullet. 800-X can be used but i dont use it in the 9MM due to it's very large flakes which takes up space in the 9MM case.

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